#email-sms

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Anthony Guynes February 27, 2025 at 03:36 PM

We are currently at about 20k monthly revenue. We are paying 1k for email marketing and making a little over that in campaign based revenue each month, more from email flows. Does it make sense to keep this person on?

Sandeep Bansal February 27, 2025 at 03:51 PM

Typically in total your emails should contribute about 40% of your total revenue. Out of this the campaigns should contribute about 60-75%

If you're getting less revenue from campaigns and more from flows it's probably because you're not putting in as much effort as you should to build your campaigns calendar

Tobi Chapman February 27, 2025 at 04:02 PM

@Sandeep Bansal What makes you say 40%? This seems like an arbitrary number with no weight behind it.

@Anthony Guynes unless you are super stretched for time, I'd argue you don't need someone to be running your campaigns at this point.

There are plenty of AI tools out there that are perfect for brands of your size where you want to keep on top of sending emails, but don't have the budget to work with a freelancer/agency. Cost efficient and very little time commitment on your side.

Anthony Guynes February 27, 2025 at 04:09 PM

Which ai tools would you recommend for this?

Tobi Chapman February 27, 2025 at 04:11 PM

For copy + design, check out https://getripple.ai/

Sandeep Bansal February 27, 2025 at 04:26 PM

@Tobi Chapman not sure what weight works but I'm talking about average data from 300+ accounts that I've managed in the past 12 years.

Ideally we want to divide paid versus owned revenue in an even 50 50 split. Yes it's not always possible but we try and do it that way for the most part.

Out of the owned revenue the majority comes from emails and organic placements like SEO and organic social

The letter contributes to about 10 at best 15% so the emails land at about 35 to 40%

That has been our standard benchmark for almost 12 years now and if a client goes to 50% sometimes even 60% with email revenue that is a clear signal that the list is being over leveraged or they're not spending or managing their paid media as well as they should

Anubhav Narula February 27, 2025 at 07:48 PM

@Wiehan Britz Any inputs from your experience

Jared Holstad February 27, 2025 at 08:11 PM

Personally, I would not pay $1k/m for someone to make just north of $1k/m from campaigns. Once the flows are set up theres not a ton of optimization they're doing on a monthly basis, especially at a level thats driving $20k/m total.

Rohan Seth February 28, 2025 at 12:22 AM

@Anthony Guynes happy to walk you through a demo of Ripple if you're interested.

You should be able to create / send the campaigns yourself (with about 15-30 mins spent on each email) and get to the same revenue you're at.

(disclaimer: im one of the founders)

Valerie Crisp March 03, 2025 at 06:11 PM

Anecdotally, I've found brands with higher price points are converting more customers via email than paid channels. They require nurturing and email is a great place for the customer to make those considerations.

Rather than a 1k/mo person, I've had great success using Claude to generate a series of campaigns that build on each other along a typical conversion cycle (e.g. 30-90 days of campaigns). Takes 1-2hr/mo. The key is giving it high quality data, objectives, objections, etc. about your persona.

Rohan Seth March 05, 2025 at 06:30 PM

<@U08F65HUJBB> you can book time here! https://calendly.com/rohan-3ye/ripple-demo-1