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Srini Ranganathan June 08, 2024 at 12:00 PM

We sell a consumable product where customers typically reorder within 45-60 days. Our CPA is within our target range, but new customer AOV is lower than we'd like. New customer ROAS is 2.2-2.5 and our target is 3.

We have in cart upsells and gift tiers to encourage higher AOV.

What else would you do to increase new customer AOV?

Alex Wilsher June 08, 2024 at 02:19 PM

Hey @Srini Ranganathan!

New customer AOV? These are pretty much all of your options:

• Increase price
• Quantity breaks
• Upsells / cross sells / bundles
• Free shipping threshold
• Subscription
• Post purchase upsell (AfterSell app)
Post Purchase Upsell is massively slept on…

Customers are more likely to make a second purchase immediately after buying something.

Everything else you do in your funnel influences whether or not a new customer will take action on the above.

Your copywriting, offer timing, positioning, etc.

Now…

Existing customers…

Klaviyo’s “Expected Date of Order” feature is unreal — if you aren’t using it check it out.

You can set up flows to present high AOV bundle offers triggered around when Klaviyo expects them to place another order.

From there it’s always worth have a Post Purchase Flow set up with offers.

You might already be doing most of the above but let me know if you have any Qs!

Caroline Pougnier June 09, 2024 at 12:15 AM

Awesome answer!!

Srini Ranganathan June 09, 2024 at 12:17 AM

Thanks Alex! We don't do any post purchase upsells or use klaviyo like that.

Will test them out, thanks! 🙏

Srini Ranganathan June 09, 2024 at 12:22 AM

Will share with our team and post back updates to this thread

Srini Ranganathan June 09, 2024 at 12:22 AM

@Oscar Lora

Alex Wilsher June 09, 2024 at 12:23 AM

Awesome would love to hear updates — DM anytime! @Srini Ranganathan

Srini Ranganathan June 09, 2024 at 02:53 AM

Do we think there's a trifecta type thing. You know like AOV, CAC, ROAS and you can only have any 2?

Srini Ranganathan June 09, 2024 at 02:53 AM

Or am I just making it up

Son Chu June 09, 2024 at 09:16 AM

You may want to make offers that motivate people to buy more. We created a few examples from upsell offers from other brands here: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1MEnoIlG-ibtyD8ZoKtGYc46rBmPx9MEATtyF-8yF0yA/edit?usp=sharing. Hope this helps.

Alex Wilsher June 09, 2024 at 02:43 PM

@Srini Ranganathan

Most important is LTV

“The business that can spend the most to acquire a customer wins”
— Dan Kennedy

Too many businesses focus on buying a customer to win a sale

Your goal is to buy a sale to win a customer

As long as LTV > CAC then you are good

You want LTV to exceed CAC as much as possible

Optimize Retention, AOV, and COGS until LTV exceeds CAC

Upon achieving economy of scale, you will effectively have AOV, CAC and ROAS in a solid place

But these are only metrics that paint a story about yesterday

  1. Determine target CPA
  2. When exceeding target CPA, scale spend
  3. When not meeting target CPA, test inputs until you exceed (i.e. creative, copy) Lmk if this helps! 🙂

Courtney Todd June 21, 2024 at 06:23 PM

Are you using affiliate or programmatic/native at all?